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Yoga is the journey…

Yoga is the journey f the self, through the self, to the self.

Yoga is the journey of the self, through the self, to the self.

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More discipline, less naughtiness, fine-tunes the body and mind

Vaidya Raman Das Mahatagyi, who runs Yatan Holistic Ayurvedic Centre in Sydney’s north-shore suburb of Gordon, has practised Ayurveda since he was a child, learning first from his grandfather then studying it in the holy city of Varanasi.

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Ayurveda is India’s traditional system of medicine, and one of the world’s oldest. It is also yoga’s “sister” practice – two interrelated branches of the same tree. In his book, Yoga and Ayurveda: Self-Healing and Self-Realization, David Frawley, an authority on yoga and Ayurveda, says Ayurveda is the science of healing for body and mind, and yoga is the science of self-realisation that depends on a well-functioning body and mind.

Ayurveda is very much focused on personal balance – each person is unique. Ayurveda describes three fundamental mind/body types, or doshas – vata, pitta and kapha – and every person is a combination of the three to varying degrees. To be healthy, you need to know which dosha you are, and how to balance it. When you become ill, it is because one or more doshas are out of balance. For more information on doshas, visit, Raman Das’s website.

I wanted to find out how Raman Das felt about diet and yoga, and he generously took some time to talk to me.

I’m interested in your take on the effect of a person’s diet and whether it’s necessary to become vegetarian to pursue a “serious” yoga practice.

Raman Das: It depends on which perspective – from an Ayurvedic or a yoga perspective.

Let’s start with the yoga perspective.

From a yoga perspective, always they recommend pure vegetarian.

I was hoping you wouldn’t say that…

As you move deeper into yoga practice your system becomes delicate and your energy – all your energy channels are more open. You need softer food and then body can do more work with softer food. Because [your system] is more active just like your car – when your car is brand new, it takes less fuel but when your car becomes older, then it starts to take you more and more fuel.

Same is happening when you do yoga practice – you need less food, body is highly processing everything.

So the more yoga you do, the less dense your food needs to be?

You need lighter food – meat produces more toxins – ama. Ama accumulates so it is not good for body; it’s very clogging. When you do yoga the body opens up so any food which is lighter then yoga practice will be better, and health will be better.

 Yoga practice from a physical point of view?

The yoga point of view is not only physical, it’s also spiritual, mental, deeper – the chakras, kundalini [kundalini is said to be the energy that is coiled at the base of the spine – releasing the kundalini results in spiritual awakening].

But if you are just concerned with the physical aspect of yoga, then it doesn’t matter, then you treat just like exercise.

But as Western people, if you like good health, if you like feeling robust, then this rule [the vegetarian rule] does not apply. Suppose you are a builder and you do yoga and [you are] vegetarian, you cannot lift many things, so you need some energy.

If you like physical exercise then you need very strong food.  But in Ayurveda and from the yoga perspective also we have very strong food that is more powerful than meat – like chick peas and moong dahl. Food that is high protein, highly absorbable and less toxic for the body.

So a vegetarian diet makes your body and your mind more refined?

More refined, more subtle. And you absorb things very quick and fast – like universal connection – you channel [universal connection] and then any information – you don’t know what someone asks you and then immediately you will reply even if you haven’t read it or heard it before. So as you go deeper, this type of ability starts to happen.

I like the sound of this!

In yoga this is called samadhipadha, the stage of perfection. It gives you all this knowledge without knowing, without studying, because you are channeling universal connections. In the universe, everything is available.

Do you think that if you are leading a normal life and you have to go to work every day and you are trying to do your yoga practice and trying to achieve that state – I mean it’s more difficult because you have to go to work every day and all those pressures of work and family and modern life…

It is possible to do it, but you have to know that right lifestyle.

You need to be very disciplined, not my strong point.

Yeah, the discipline.  [There is also] yoga without the discipline, this is tantra. [There is] no discipline but also you can achieve.

Tell me more about this idea of no discipline!  Doesn’t tantra say you can achieve all those things…*

Yeah without discipline.

Yes, through your body, using your body – your body and mind – and all in this world.

You don’t have to go and live like a monk. You can do the household life – doing office work, wife, husband children, friends, society, but you have to understand how to do it.

In tantra they teach that there is a method for anything. In the Vigyan Bhairav Tantra, they have divided the mind’s desire into 112 paths, so if your mind is like this, then this is what you should do.

If your personality is drawn in certain directions, it gives you instructions on what path you should follow?

Suppose you like drinking, and you like to do some [yoga] practice also. So how can you drink and also do practice? There is a method [but it doesn’t] involve more drinking, it gets you out and then if you are satisfied. So even if it’s there, you don’t want it.

So even though that is your path, it refines you away from that path?

That’s right. So if you like to drink, and someone tells you don’t drink – you think, oh god, I am missing something in my life, then tantra tells you no, you do not have to suppress your desires. But you do in such a way that your desire automatically reduces – I don’t want these things.

Using these methods you will feel no loss. Time will come – you will enjoy, but you will feel – I’m full. But not like suppressing your desire. How great it is!

And then you are not chasing after things, whatever it is – alcohol, sex, food.

With sex, if you are celibate, then you feel more desire. If you are suppressing it, tantra says no, go through it, then after some time, I don’t need it [anymore].

Tell me more about diet from an Ayurvedic perspective.

The Ayurvedic perspective describes what the properties of meat are for example, what the meat can give you, and what the vegetarian diet can do you for. But they prefer you to be vegetarian, they say your life will be longer.

But many vegetarians get sick because they have no idea what to eat, when to eat and how to rejuvenate themselves. Then it’s not good. Ayurveda describes every food  – for example, in India people don’t eat beef, but Ayurveda describes the properties of beef.

Ayurveda tells you how to enjoy life – it gives instructions on how to do it. They say vegetarian food is highly absorbable and you live longer and can enjoy good health.

Do you think a little bit of meat is fine? If you balance it?

Ayurveda says, so I want meat, whatever you say, but I want meat… so Ayurveda tells you how to take meat. Because not many people here are vegetarian, I have done research. If you take meat 40% and 60% vegetables then it’s highly absorbable and highly digestible.

What do you think about veganism?

That is also excessive. A time will come when vegans will feel starved – not satisfied, not contented. And then they run off and start another life! People go from one extreme to another extreme. In the west, we are always going to extremes – one end to the other end. People that I study always fluctuate – they say – I was vegan before, I am gluten free… but all these people have problems because your body needs many types of things. If you are vegan, a time will come when you feel like you are in jail, you are forcing yourself.

And all the processed food – another example of people going to extremes.

With processed food – the tummy is full but the mind is not. Your body is not satisfied or nourished. It’s like working eight hours and you only get $10!

Ayurveda says how your food can be balanced. Even as a pure vegetarian. You need lentils and pulses – they are a good source of protein.

So come on, tell me – do you do anything naughty?


Oh right!


*NOTE: I’m not advocating tantra, nor am I discouraging it. When many Western people think of tantra, they think (wrongly) that it’s all about sex. It’s not – it is a very complicated practice and beyond, firstly, my understanding, and secondly, the scope of this blog. It is traditionally considered a secret practice, one only undertaken with the guidance of a recognised guru.

In addition, many so-called gurus have, under the guise of “tantra” and the promise of spiritual attainment and enlightenment, taken advantage of people and used their knowledge for their own physical and financial gratification. Chogyam Trungpa and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (later called Osho) are examples of this – you can read more about this in this book summary on Elephant Journal.


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The secret extremist

Secret extremist seeks personal revolution

An addiction to tea means that Perth-based yoga teacher and physiotherapist Christiane Steinward feels she can hardly judge people for their lifestyle choices.

I’ve known Christiane for about seven years, since we met in the lobby of the New Woodlands Hotel in Chennai, India. We’ve been friends ever since.

Our paths have diverged since then. She was yet to finish her yoga teacher training; I was already teaching. I gave up teaching because I was bored with the sound of my own voice; she was so serious about yoga, she took on a physiotherapy degree so she could better understand the dynamics of the human body in order to be a better teacher. That’s dedication. That’s kind of … extreme.

Originally from Manchester – a city known for its club scene and drinking culture – in the United Kingdom, Christiane used to party hard.

“I used to take a lot of drugs; drink a lot,” she says, in a voice that suggests a lot really does mean a LOT.

She felt she really pushed the boundaries with that lifestyle and has come to see herself as an “extremist”.

I am surprised by this – I would never have described her as such. Rather, she has a breezy and easy-going nature that seems to me totally different what you would expect a serious and full-on yogi to be.

“I’m a secret extremist,” she says.

Party-hard lifestyle loses its appeal

After discovering yoga after moving to Sydney, the appeal of her former lifestyle slowly started to wane.

“At some point, it became just not appealing anymore.”who am i?

“It seemed particularly unappealing, like it was taking me in the wrong direction.”

As she progressed in her understanding and experience of yoga, she found herself questioning who she was after a night out on the tiles.

She felt a discord – who am I? Is this really me?

Personal revolution

The direction she, along with her husband, is increasingly taking is more of a “personal revolution”. She wants to reach her potential from a spiritual perspective rather than a material or social one. This, for her, is living with integrity.happiness

She has given up the booze, and doesn’t eat meat. Her “vices” now are tea and… well, just tea. About 20 cups a day. She is English after all, and there’s that secret extremist coming out again. The whole vegan thing though, is not going to happen, what with all the milk that goes into all that tea.

“I can’t give up dairy. How can I preach to anyone when I’m sooo addicted to tea!”

I asked Christiane whether she thought you could live a life of integrity without this total dedication.

“Totally! 100% I think you can. We all have our own path and there are so many different ways it can unfold for different people.”

You can practice yoga to make your body feel better or to calm your mind, but it needn’t be your whole path.

There are many different paths to reaching the goal of any discipline and yoga is no different. You can completely immerse yourself in it, as Christiane has done, or it can be an addition that complements and enhances your life.

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Yoga – a (very brief) definition

In the definitive explanation of yoga, the Yoga Sutras, written more than 2000 years ago, the sage Patanjali says: “Yogas citta vritti nirodhah”, which can be loosely translated as “yoga stills the fluctuations of the mind”.

When you’re in a state of yoga, all misconceptions that can exist in your mind disappear.

This, though, is its ultimate expression. There are many paths that lead to that goal, which may never be attained in this lifetime. It’s a multi-dimensional, transformational guide to living a fuller, more expansive life.

Yoga is a Sanskrit word that means union, and this union can come in many forms – the union of the body and the breath, the union of the body and the mind, and ultimately, the union of oneself with God, the universe, all-that-is – whatever you like to call that unchanging, eternal force that underlies all of life.

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